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Arkantos · Sep 17, 2007, 07:05 PM // 19:05

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PS. In GW2 you might ask for something that can change your race as well....

Races will most likely affect the gameplay of your character. So a Charr will probably have different pros/cons then a Norn.

Gender does not affect gameplay at all. A male warrior can do anything a female warrior can do and vice versa.

MithranArkanere · Sep 17, 2007, 10:27 PM // 22:27

It could be a funny 1st April consumable, there could be two versions, one than changes your gender for 50 minutes, and one that changes target gender 5 minutes.

FelixCarter · Sep 17, 2007, 11:11 PM // 23:11

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Originally Posted by Mineria

Yes, if the tonics have a permanent effect.

What do you have? A big book of "basic principals of RPGs 101"?
If you have a website your getting this "principal" from, then please post it.
If you got this from one of your DnD books, then all I can give you in response is a "wow".
If you pulling this out of the magical land that lives somewhere in your butt, then keep it to yourself.

Having people be able to change their appearance isn't going to make your Ogre-Slaying Knife with +9 versus Ogres stop rolling 1d4 damage.

/Signed again.

Kale Ironfist · Sep 18, 2007, 12:48 AM // 00:48

Wasn't there a post saying that they couldn't do this? April Fools didn't actually change your character at all, it just told the client to display the opposite gender in certain towns.

darkknightkain · Sep 18, 2007, 01:19 AM // 01:19

How about this?

Reincarnation Potion
- reset your level to lv1, (may be also eliminate your /death counter?)
- lets you re-select your face/hair/skin/height again
- replace your armours with the starter armours
- teleports you to the starting outpost (ie. Ascalon, Sheng Jea, Kamadan)
- locks out all your map outposts until you revisit them again
- locks out all your elite skills until you learn them again or reach level 20

How is that different from delete-and-recreate character...
- don't need to re-grind sunspear points
- continue getting birthday presents

Mineria · Sep 18, 2007, 10:57 AM // 10:57

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Originally Posted by FelixCarter

What do you have? A big book of "basic principals of RPGs 101"?

When you start the game you are presented with a character sheet, from which you select class, sex and look.
At that point you already know that this is your final choice for that character.
Which means you should look at all the options you got before making it final.
This reminds me a lot about when some asked for sex/class changes on the WoW EU forums. Never gonna happen.
Just look at it as that your character is unique from the day it is born.
Everyone is used to its appearance, even you, so why do you want to change that in the first place?
For the armor justification, why not wiki them up before making your choice?
Ive seen a lot of players asking others "which armor is cool?", don't people got their own opinion/taste?
I mean, you got all armor sets displayed for each class/sex, it isn't any harder then take a look at them and decide which one you like.
And I think that arena.net want to keep some of the key elements of rpg as well.
Lineage II has some portions that can change your hairstyle, but people are not always happy with the outcome. Not sure if its random generated there.
Changing the sex of your character may conflict with its name as well.
Name changing will not be allowed, first of all to prevent scammers etc. from changing them, and the other thing is that names are reserved for your characters for GW2.

PS. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Role-playing_game

Friar Khan · Sep 18, 2007, 07:22 PM // 19:22

/signed

I don't really care how they do it, but I'm in favor of character appearance editing options. Personally I'd probably only change a few hairstyles and that's it.

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Originally Posted by darkknightkain

How about this?

Reincarnation Potion
- reset your level to lv1, (may be also eliminate your /death counter?)
- lets you re-select your face/hair/skin/height again
- replace your armours with the starter armours
- teleports you to the starting outpost (ie. Ascalon, Sheng Jea, Kamadan)
- locks out all your map outposts until you revisit them again
- locks out all your elite skills until you learn them again or reach level 20

How is that different from delete-and-recreate character...
- don't need to re-grind sunspear points
- continue getting birthday presents

Also a nice idea, expecially nice for people who'd like to get a title like survivor for their character that existed before PvE titles. I'm not sure that they could manage the coding. It's a tall order and if there are errors with it people will be very unhappy. If they would add something like this, I'd prefer for all my armors to just be locked out until I'm lvl 20, since some of them may be expensive.

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Originally Posted by Mineria

When you start the game you are presented with a character sheet, from which you select class, sex and look.
At that point you already know that this is your final choice for that character.
Which means you should look at all the options you got before making it final.
This reminds me a lot about when some asked for sex/class changes on the WoW EU forums. Never gonna happen.
Just look at it as that your character is unique from the day it is born.
Everyone is used to its appearance, even you, so why do you want to change that in the first place?
For the armor justification, why not wiki them up before making your choice?
Ive seen a lot of players asking others "which armor is cool?", don't people got their own opinion/taste?
I mean, you got all armor sets displayed for each class/sex, it isn't any harder then take a look at them and decide which one you like.
And I think that arena.net want to keep some of the key elements of rpg as well.
Lineage II has some portions that can change your hairstyle, but people are not always happy with the outcome. Not sure if its random generated there.
Changing the sex of your character may conflict with its name as well.
Name changing will not be allowed, first of all to prevent scammers etc. from changing them, and the other thing is that names are reserved for your characters for GW2.

PS. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Role-playing_game

Okay I disagree with you on several points here:
1) Most importantly the "basic principals of RPG" argument that you're defending is based on convention alone. While it's true that most RPGs may not offer much in the way of character editing that doesn't mean that a new RPG has to stick with that convention. It's not like they'll ruin the game if they break a minor convention or two. GW breaks a big convention already in the fact that you can change your character's attributes as many times as you want. They chose to break that convention for good reason. Whether or not they feel the appearance editing is also a good convention to break is up to them, but I'm sure there's some people that haven't bought GWEN yet that would do so if that was the only way to gain access to a hairstylist/appearance editing npc. So that's a pretty good reason to add an appearance editing npc, I think the only decent reason not to add appearance editing is because other things may be of higher priority.
2) Real people are unique from the day they're born too and yet people still change hair styles from time to time. Facial/gender changes are less casual in real life, but for a fantasy game like GW I don't think it's such a serious issue.
3) Sometimes people's tastes change. Even if they liked the look years ago, they could easily prefer a different look now.
4) For people that'd like to change sexes now that they've seen the armor you say that they should have wiki'd the armors before creating a character. However it took a few months after Factions came out before wiki had all the Factions armors. Wiki servers used to be unreliable so often you couldn't check wiki as conveniently as you can now. Since the person who said he'd rather have a female Rt probably created theirs before wiki was as useful as it is now then he didn't have the luxury of informing his decision with it.
5) In Lineage 2 the potions are error prone, that's what people complain about. I don't blame them.

As far as name changing I think you make a decent point. People with gender specific names may be out of luck.

The Little Viking · Sep 23, 2007, 09:18 AM // 09:18

I like the idea myself. Someone mentioned were not shape shifters...oh well....call it a sex change operation and plastic surgery then.

gremlin · Sep 23, 2007, 11:33 AM // 11:33

Oh just find a friendly armorer to make you some female armor

I stand by your right to be a woman/man

or as they put it in a popular movie

Judith: [on Stan's desire to be a mother] Here! I've got an idea: Suppose you agree that he can't actually have babies, not having a womb - which is nobody's fault, not even the Romans' - but that he can have the *right* to have babies.
Francis: Good idea, Judith. We shall fight the oppressors for your right to have babies, brother... sister, sorry.
Reg: What's the *point*?
Francis: What?
Reg: What's the point of fighting for his right to have babies, when he can't have babies?
Francis: It is symbolic of our struggle against oppression.
Reg: It's symbolic of his struggle against reality.

support the idea of cosmetic character changes hair colour bead shaven head etc, if its not too much of a hassle.

Changing the characters sex well just have the potions turn up at all festivals if they are so popular.

character name might be another stumbling block though.

draxynnic · Sep 23, 2007, 12:31 PM // 12:31

Well, at the very least...

Hairstyles should be modifiable. I mean, Prophecies characters have theoretically been around for eight years (EOTN is three years after Nightfall, which is three years after Prophecies and Factions, which are two years after the Searing). I'm not going to say most people, but certainly a lot of people are going to change their hairstyles over close to a decade.